In this episode, Kathi sits down with her longtime friend and collaborator, Shonna Jordan, a marketing strategist, serial entrepreneur, and the founder of the Good Old Gals networking group. What unfolds is a real, honest conversation about ambition, reinvention, and what it looks like to keep going when life gets loud.

Shonna’s career has spanned marketing agencies, leadership roles, community building, authorship, and new ventures that challenge traditional ideas of business and social connection. But this episode isn’t about listing accomplishments. It’s about the moments in between the pivots, the pauses, and the questions we all ask when we’re juggling too much and wondering if we’ve missed our window.

Together, Kathi Burns and Shonna talk about what really makes networking effective, why consistency matters more than showing up once, and how clarity in your message can change the way you show up in business and in life. Shonna also shares how attention to detail, creativity, and structure can coexist, and why that balance is often the secret sauce behind things that “just feel easy” on the surface.

The conversation also touches on resilience. Shonna opens up about a challenging season that forced her to slow down, accept support, and rethink how she defines productivity and success. It’s a reminder that starting something new doesn’t always mean starting from scratch; sometimes it means starting from experience.

If you’ve ever felt stretched thin, unsure whether you still have room for another dream, or questioned whether it’s too late to try something different, this episode will feel like a deep breath and a gentle nudge forward.